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For a historian, the Second World War and Germany’s genocide of European peoples are the gift — also in the German sense — that keeps on giving. There seems to be no end to stories one can tell.

Some of those stories are more bizarre than others. Like how Finland’s Jews ended up fighting, on occasion side-by-side, with Germans against the Soviet Union. Not in secret, but openly. In some ways, even proudly.

Oula Silvennoinen, a leading Finnish researcher in Holocaust studies and fascism, explains that history as well as the moral and political cognitive dissonance it fomented — for Finns, Germans, and Jews.

This small corner of Holocaust history has implications for our understanding of it, the role antisemitism plays in European memory politics, and our current era of resurgent nationalism and right-wing populism, which has produced its own share of unlikely bedfellows.

If you like this conversation, you may also be interested in The Bupkes’ other recent Finland-adjacent coverage:

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Erscheinungs­datum: 26.9.2025, 12:04:15